forum: Leftovers
#1 Sat 14 Jul 12 4:26pm
mummza
Occupation avoiding housework
- From The land of song.
- Member since Tue 04 Oct 05
The price of milk ... Poor farmers
I am feeling rather anxious about the dairy industry , yet again the poor farmers have had the price that they are paid for milk cut .
At this rate there won't be a dairy industry in the UK as it is starting to cost the farmers more to keep the dairy cows than they are able to make from selling the milk.
It's an awful situation and one once again that seems to have been driven by the price of milk that the supermarkets want to sell the milk for.
In the UK we have all got used to cheaper milk that on many other countries , but at what price .
This week it was announced that farmers were going to have the price paid to them reduced by I heard by around 4p to around 24p per litre in August ( yes you read right 24p per litre ) these reductions are being pushed through by the large dairy companies who buy the milk from the dairy farmers . Each year dairy farms close as they are struggling to get fair price for the milk that is produced.
It is expensive keeping a farm and there are a lot of costs involved , it's not just as simple as having a few cows , feeding the and milking them .. Wages need to be paid , land and buildings need to be kept correctly , dairy equipment and other farm machinery maintained , vets bills paid , cows registered etc etc..the list goes on
If we are not carefully we will end up having no dairy industry here in the UK , we will end up with all our milk in the UK being imported at the expense to the environment or we could even end up buying milk that is made from reconstituted powdered milk ... Each time having to check the label of the milk we buy to see if it's been reconstituted or not !
It's a sad state of affairs when a country that is as green and lush as the Uk is not able to support the industries that are needed to provide for the people who live in there .
On the upside though .. I know that a lot of the small artisan cheese producers have started as a direct result of things like milk quota's and the poor price that is being paid to the farmers for the milk produced !
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#2 Sun 15 Jul 12 1:48am
JoyYamDaisy

- From Melbourne Australia
- Member since Sun 12 Apr 09
Re: The price of milk ... Poor farmers
The same things has been happening here Mummza! ![]()
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#3 Sun 15 Jul 12 9:18am
oliviascotland

- From Scotland
- Member since Wed 06 Apr 05
Re: The price of milk ... Poor farmers
I for one would be happy to pay more for my milk (even if we did end up drinking less) were it to make life easier for the farmers. I believe that it is vital to support our farmers, whatever it takes. It would be a desperately sad (and costly to the whole country) situation if milk production stopped. It would have many bad consequences for all of us, even those who don't drink or buy milk.
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#4 Sun 15 Jul 12 10:45am
mummza
Occupation avoiding housework
- From The land of song.
- Member since Tue 04 Oct 05
Re: The price of milk ... Poor farmers
It's a scary situation as its starting to cost the farmers more to keep the dairy cows than they get back from selling the milk . I wonder who in their right mind would want to become a dairy farmer if this continues !
I would also be happy to pay more for milk but would that extra price paid go to the poor farmers or would it go to the huge dairies that run the dairy industries or the supermarkets who have also have to take responsibility for driving the price of milk down .
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#5 Sun 15 Jul 12 2:13pm
maddimouse
Occupation chatterbox addicted to cooking
- From mid-west Germany
- Member since Mon 23 Feb 09
Re: The price of milk ... Poor farmers
It might be very convenient to be able to go into a big supermarket and get everything you need. But with supermarkets builiding huge chains, also with the dairy industry, they have a huge market presence and try to sell at least some of their products as cheap as possible.
I wish there were more farmers selling their products directly. Here, some of the farmers do have their own farmerīs shops on their properties and are quite successfull with it. Sadly, this doesnīt work for all of them, esp. because some of the farms are quite far away from the customers and not everyone wants to drive an hour or more to buy essential food! There might be no other chance to survive for some though than building communities and bringing products to the customers by building own little farm markets. This would at least push the "buying local"- idea.
Like many, I would pay more for quite some products if I could only be sure the difference would really go to the farmers.
There is a supermarket chain in Germany that does sell some of the their products being labled "farmer friendly", which means that you do pay more for a litre of milk e.g., but the difference to the "regular" price is going to the farmers.
I want to make some research on that, basically because I want to know whether this is really true and the money I pay more is going to the farmers 100% or wether this is just a marketing thing.
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#6 Mon 16 Jul 12 1:46pm
cjdownes21
- Member Occupation Layabout!
- From Henham, Essex
- Member since Sat 14 Jul 12
Re: The price of milk ... Poor farmers
The same problem seems to occur all around the food industry. Instead of buying/eating smaller portions of quality reared and prepared food many just seem to want as much as cheap and blow the consequences.
Such a shame.
I noticed the difference on a holiday to Italy when we stopped for coffee in a small cup and a chocolate bar smaller than I have seen in a while. So nice not to have supersize!
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#7 Sat 21 Jul 12 12:25pm
carolharvey
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Re: The price of milk ... Poor farmers
Hi
I run a village shop in Oxfordshire and we do stock local milk, they bottle on site from thier own Guernsey Herd. They put in a pasterisation machine and now sell direct to local shops. So do try and hunt out a local dairy. Apparently it's also better for your health than the homogonised milk the big supermarkets sell, something to do with fat globules?
Carol
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#8 Sat 21 Jul 12 9:24pm
Dallas Mary
- Member Occupation Unwilling retiree
- From Dallas, Texas, USA
- Member since Sat 21 Jul 12
Re: The price of milk ... Poor farmers
In Dallas we can buy 3 half gallons of organic milk at Costco for $10. However, I prefer to buy Horizon Organic Milk which sells at my chain grocery for $4.99 a half gallon. The difference is that the goodies in Costco's milk come from grains and from undefined fish oil. Horizon's cows are grass grazed (not grain fed) and the Omega sources are from algae. I am celiac (severly gluten intolerant) so these differences are important to me. My son buys unpasturized organic grass fed/algae supplemented milk in Houston. I am 63 and my grandparents owned a dairy farm until I was 14. Rich creamy milk straight out of the udder....and clotted cream skimmed from the top of the holding tank. We made our own cottage cheese and I churned the butter. Nothing quite like it now!
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#9 Sun 22 Jul 12 1:49pm
falconcy
Occupation Project Manager
- From Limassol, Cyprus
- Member since Tue 19 Dec 06
Re: The price of milk ... Poor farmers
The problem we have here in Cyprus is pretty much the opposite to what you guys have, we can only get the what we can loosely call the supermarket stuff and it is getting more and more expensive - currently around 1.25 Euros/liter. One of the milk companies makes "organic" a snip at ~2 Euros for 500ml.
Although it is "fresh", it can turn in a day or so. What I don't get though is that we can actually buy imported UHT milk for around 90c a liter. As we mostly use it to put a bit of colour into coffee, guess what we buy.
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#10 Sun 22 Jul 12 7:27pm
cheif454
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Re: The price of milk ... Poor farmers
i agree with the farmers because they are only asking for 10p more so why don't the supermarkets help them.
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